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Sounds like they want to get it out to the gamers ASAP.

Halo 1 is on the short end of its product life as it is.

Seven of those bullet points are bug fixes.

Is it that they are charging for the update or the bandwidth with which is being eaten by downloading?

I Really want to get it... but I feel down-right shafted that I have to pay $5 for an update.

: /

-9mm (ouT)

Bat wrote:

ukimalefu wrote:

Paying for a patch Bad precedent

It's a good thing that I don't have an Intel Mac.

It's a bad thing you'll always know Mac Halo for graphics inferior to PC Halo. But of course many hours of skilled labor should be free. And 650MB patches for 2 2/3-year-old games do grow on trees.

A free bugfix-only version would reasonable to expect.

i wonder if my PC halo cd key will work

Last edited by PJSkittles (2006-08-17 11:21 am)

Zetetic Apparatchik wrote:

A free bugfix-only version would reasonable to expect.

You've already been given EIGHT bugfix-only versions for free, so grow up. How dare they offer a huge new benefit instead of just fixing bugs for the PPC version!

Bat wrote:

But of course many hours of skilled labor should be free. And 650MB patches for 2 2/3-year-old games do grow on trees.

Diablo 2 has seen a few patches that have completely redone how the game works, years after it's release.  Hell, Starcraft continues to see regular patches and that game is like three times the age of Halo (for PC/Mac).

And those patches are free.

Made from 2 different companies. I highly doubt it.

The Cynic wrote:

Bat wrote:

DL this, fire up Halo at 1600x1200 and see it how it should be seen.

Not as if people with a pc and Halo haven't been doing this for many months.

I've been doing it for over two years... but this a MacSoft product, in MacAddict's forums.

akb825 wrote:

Bat wrote:

Perhaps the previous sentence weighs in? I trust Ken Cobb to have taken full advantage of the better Apple OpenGL since 2003 to finally have implemented PS2.0-equivalent shaders. If you have a DX9-class videocard, this is a must for the price of a couple Big Macs or whatever.

Akb825, where are you? A2daj?

It looks like the only addition they made, according to their list, at least, is the use of "better render-to-texture" which I'm guessing means the use of FBOs instead of Pixel buffers. (which decreases the overhead of requiring a separate context) That is only available on DX-9 capable cards, though... It will run better, but I doubt it will really look any better.

Remember your surprise about Halo PC not supporting FSAA, and lack of hardware support for same until recently (MRTs)? Halo PC was the first to use them, perhaps the first DX9 game of note (TR:AoD was the first by a couple of weeks, but reviewers wondered where teh pr3tty was that justified PS2.0 and the low framerates). My surmise is Ken Cobb et al have finally been able to support multiple render-to-texture in Mac Halo. By all rights it should look better, unless that's not the case. Subtle it may be, but great graphics need not punch you in the face. Subtlety matters to some of us, no? Certainly worth $5... unless of course you paid nothing, like so many. But don't cry to me about that.

The proper focus, tho, is on the Mac aspect. Ha-Lo? The proper focus here, tho, is on the Mac aspect.

Remember me, the first [MA]Halo Mod? Halo- it's for fun.

(That was quick. Do you subscribe to all topics you post in? )

Last edited by Bat (2006-08-17 2:30 am)

Bat wrote:

The Cynic wrote:

Bat wrote:

DL this, fire up Halo at 1600x1200 and see it how it should be seen.

Not as if people with a pc and Halo haven't been doing this for many months.

I've been doing it for over two years... but this a MacSoft product, in MacAddict's forums.

akb825 wrote:

Bat wrote:

Perhaps the previous sentence weighs in? I trust Ken Cobb to have taken full advantage of the better Apple OpenGL since 2003 to finally have implemented PS2.0-equivalent shaders. If you have a DX9-class videocard, this is a must for the price of a couple Big Macs or whatever.

Akb825, where are you? A2daj?

It looks like the only addition they made, according to their list, at least, is the use of "better render-to-texture" which I'm guessing means the use of FBOs instead of Pixel buffers. (which decreases the overhead of requiring a separate context) That is only available on DX-9 capable cards, though... It will run better, but I doubt it will really look any better.

Remember your surprise about Halo PC not supporting FSAA, and lack of hardware support for same until recently (MRTs)? Halo PC was the first to use them, perhaps the first DX9 game of note (TR:AoD was the first by a couple of weeks, but reviewers wondered where teh pr3tty was that justified PS2.0 and the low framerates). My surmise is Ken Cobb et al have finally been able to support multiple render-to-texture in Mac Halo. By all rights it should look better, unless that's not the case. Subtle it may be, but great graphics need not punch you in the face. Subtlety matters to some of us, no? Certainly worth $5... unless of course you paid nothing, like so many. But don't cry to me about that.

I suppose they could have added some effects, but I took "improved render-to-texture" to mean that they were simply improving their methods of doing what they were already doing, not adding new stuff. Only time will tell.

I agree that $5 isn't that bad a price, but I can agree about the sentiments of paying for a game you've already payed for. Of course, I haven't payed anything. (well, mainly because I've never had Halo installed on my computer )

ehh, Macsoft is a company that needs to charge $5. This is not a normal patch and it's something that probably took a considerable amount of work. Moreover, it not like they're catering to a platform that pays well... they're porting Mac games.

That's like one step up from selling refrigerators to eskimos. Go easy on them. They're fighting the good fight.