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#1 2005-10-10 9:52 pm
- Moses
- Life is like a box of Cactuar
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iPods
I remember back in the day a top of the line iPod came with a dock, firewire cable, remote and earbuds. I just got a new 60 GB sexyPod and when I opened it I was appalled to find iPod, ear buds and... a USB 2.0 cable. What the hell? I am glad I had my 10 GB from a few years back and still have a firewire cable, as opposed to dropping $40 for one. But why is this, what is the benefit of USB 2.0 over firewire, to me, it makes no sense. 
I can only express puzzlement, which borders on alarm.
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#2 2005-10-10 10:04 pm
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Appealing to the PC hordes.
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Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.
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#3 2005-10-10 10:46 pm
- Jyri Erik
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Re: iPods
The good news is that Firewire cable is "only" $19, not $40. Of course since all CURRENT Macs come with USB 2.0, it "only" affects us poor saps who have earlier Macs.
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#4 2005-10-11 7:19 pm
- imikus55
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Re: iPods
I still think Apple sells most of their ipods to windows users. It's been their gateway drug to the Mac world for awhile and I guess they had to make it more attractive to the wintel inclined.
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#5 2005-10-11 7:40 pm
- rufio
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Re: iPods
That pisses me off just thinking about it. Moses, do you have a pre-USB 2.0 Mac like me? Uploading music with USB 1.1 would be so painful! I think bluetooth is faster than that now!
This is kinda related, but my 3G iPod came with a really really long FW cable, and my mini came with a shorter one. No reason. Both FW.
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#6 2005-10-11 10:48 pm
- Moses
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Re: iPods
No, I have USB 2.0, but yeah, I have a 3G FW cable that is more than twice as long as the new USB. Okay, $20 for a Firewire cable? Holy smurfy.
I can only express puzzlement, which borders on alarm.
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#7 2005-10-11 11:49 pm
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Unfortunately this is probably a case of Apple catering to the largest user base, Windows users. Betcha most of 'em don't have FiWi, just USB. And if they only have USB 1.1, it's not like they would notice the difference anyway.
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#8 2005-10-12 4:40 am
- SchmoBurger
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Re: iPods
Windows iPodders suck! They prance around with there shiny bling iPod photo's, thinking they're King smurf, yet they have no objections to senselessly smurfing all over us real Apple users and our Macs... I hate them! 
B+W G3, 450mhz, 512mb, 2x 40Gb, DVD+/-RW, X.3.6.
Powerbook G3, 400mhz, 384mb, 40Gb, DVD-ROM, Firewire, X.3.6.
Franken-iMac G3 Blueberry, 400mhz, 64mb, 10Gb, CD-ROM, 9.2.2... SOON TO BE SOUPED UP AND RUNNING TIGER!
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#9 2005-10-12 3:35 pm
- tomfoolery
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Re: iPods
Phydeaux wrote:
Appealing to the PC whores.
Fixed that for ya.
tF
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#10 2005-10-13 11:13 pm
- imikus55
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Re: iPods
SchmoBurger wrote:
Windows iPodders suck! They prance around with there shiny bling iPod photo's, thinking they're King smurf, yet they have no objections to senselessly smurfing all over us real Apple users and our Macs... I hate them!
Now..now. You gotta be nice to the disadvantaged. Just because they use windows doesn't mean they won't come around eventually. Besides if they have an ipod they have a foot in the door already.
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#11 2005-10-13 11:50 pm
- MuckSavage
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Re: iPods
Margins, margins, margins. Apple is a company trying to make a profit.
And I paid 500 dollars for a 1st gen iPod, you know, before the whole smurfing world thought they were cool. Compared to my last iPod, which had 4 times the capacity at 200 bucks less in price.
You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.
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#12 2005-10-14 1:40 am
- Aqua OS X
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Re: iPods
Jyri Erik wrote:
The good news is that Firewire cable is "only" $19, not $40. Of course since all CURRENT Macs come with USB 2.0, it "only" affects us poor saps who have earlier Macs.
Jyri
I don't know why you'd want to use a firewire cable with the new video iPod. Like the Nano, it can charge over firewire, but it won't sync.
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#13 2005-10-14 2:21 am
- Aqua OS X
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Re: iPods
All in all, I don't see what the big deal is.
I'm glad they ditched firewire. Eliminating firewire helps to slim the case down. Moreover, the lack of a firewire cable and a firewire controller saves money. Firewire is significantly more expensive then USB 2. That gives Apple the ability to explore other components, such as a larger high resolution LCD with a wide viewing angle.
And firewire isn't really necessary for the iPod. USB2 is a master / slave setup, while firewire devices can allow devices to network and communicate with each other. The iPod doesn't really need that level of connectivity. It's a not a DV camera.
You can't boot off the new iPods... but, who cares. Not a lot of people do that, and prolonged usage shortens the life of the tiny harddisk.
Ohh, and a Mac compatible USB 2 card is only $12.
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#14 2005-10-17 11:50 am
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Re: iPods
SchmoBurger wrote:
Windows iPodders suck! They prance around with there shiny bling iPod photo's, thinking they're King smurf, yet they have no objections to senselessly smurfing all over us real Apple users and our Macs... I hate them!
moronathon winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#15 2005-10-17 6:22 pm
- Some1
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Re: iPods
SchmoBurger wrote:
Windows iPodders suck! They prance around with there shiny bling iPod photo's, thinking they're King smurf, yet they have no objections to senselessly smurfing all over us real Apple users and our Macs... I hate them!
I am a windows user against my will. Oh and I use a firewire cable with my mini.
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#16 2005-10-17 7:38 pm
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Appealing to the PC hordes.
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#17 2005-10-17 7:39 pm
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tomfoolery wrote:
Phydeaux wrote:
Appealing to the PC whores.
Fixed that for ya.
tF
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#18 2005-10-17 8:42 pm
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Remember walking down the street back in the day and seeing another person with an iPod and feeling like you had some sort of connection with them in some abstract way? Well, now what does it feel like when you see someone walking down the street with their shiny new iPod?
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#19 2005-10-18 12:32 am
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Re: iPods
Depends upon whether or not they also have a Powerbook under their arm... 
B+W G3, 450mhz, 512mb, 2x 40Gb, DVD+/-RW, X.3.6.
Powerbook G3, 400mhz, 384mb, 40Gb, DVD-ROM, Firewire, X.3.6.
Franken-iMac G3 Blueberry, 400mhz, 64mb, 10Gb, CD-ROM, 9.2.2... SOON TO BE SOUPED UP AND RUNNING TIGER!
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#20 2005-10-18 12:37 am
- SchmoBurger
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Re: iPods
Some1 wrote:
SchmoBurger wrote:
Windows iPodders suck! They prance around with there shiny bling iPod photo's, thinking they're King smurf, yet they have no objections to senselessly smurfing all over us real Apple users and our Macs... I hate them!
I am a windows user against my will. Oh and I use a firewire cable with my mini.
Precisely, against your will... but do you go around to every mac user you see and say to them "Macs SUCK!", whilst prancing around thinking your all that with an iPod in your hand?... I'd think not, considering that you are on a mac forum.
I'm referring to the Windozers who DO exhibit the aforementioned behaviour...
B+W G3, 450mhz, 512mb, 2x 40Gb, DVD+/-RW, X.3.6.
Powerbook G3, 400mhz, 384mb, 40Gb, DVD-ROM, Firewire, X.3.6.
Franken-iMac G3 Blueberry, 400mhz, 64mb, 10Gb, CD-ROM, 9.2.2... SOON TO BE SOUPED UP AND RUNNING TIGER!
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#21 2005-10-18 2:27 pm
- Jon
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Re: iPods
FIREW1R3 FOR EVAR!
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#22 2005-10-18 4:03 pm
- imikus55
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Re: iPods
Always been big firewire fan. Always will be. There's just something cool about hooking your isight to the back of your external hard drive when you run our of firewire ports. 
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#23 2005-10-18 4:20 pm
- brendave
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Re: iPods
Aqua Man wrote:
Remember walking down the street back in the day and seeing another person with an iPod and feeling like you had some sort of connection with them in some abstract way? Well, now what does it feel like when you see someone walking down the street with their shiny new iPod?
I think that they have made a good investment and that the iPod will increase the quality of their life
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#24 2005-10-18 9:22 pm
- SchmoBurger
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Re: iPods
I should increase the quality of my life some day... but for the moment I'll stick with pumping tunes outta' the Powerbook...
B+W G3, 450mhz, 512mb, 2x 40Gb, DVD+/-RW, X.3.6.
Powerbook G3, 400mhz, 384mb, 40Gb, DVD-ROM, Firewire, X.3.6.
Franken-iMac G3 Blueberry, 400mhz, 64mb, 10Gb, CD-ROM, 9.2.2... SOON TO BE SOUPED UP AND RUNNING TIGER!
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#25 2005-10-18 11:39 pm
- brendave
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Re: iPods
SchmoBurger wrote:
I should increase the quality of my life some day... but for the moment I'll stick with pumping tunes outta' the Powerbook...
the fact that you have a PowerBook shows that you have improved the quality of you life
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