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Hmm ... I have enough time to play a couple of games of CivIII.

Couple hundred games, maybe.

Last edited by ShnickyShnack (2005-04-06 10:56 am)

iBubba wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Hmm ... I have enough time to play a couple of games of CivIII.

Couple hundred games, maybe.

You, sir, receive a demerit. To the corner with you, pronto!

Yes, sir. Sorry, sir.

:: hang head in shame ::

iBubba wrote:

Pretty please. With sugar on top...

Let's 'nip this one in the bud'.

1. I was, of course, wrong to call it an "autopsy report" when it, in fact, was a 1991 bone scan; the point, however, of the report is not in dispute.
2. The location of its acquisition is here:
http://www.cnsnews.com/Culture/Archive/ … 1028a.html
3. The reaction was, however, not unexpected; one again showing the messenger not the message in question.

mea culpa

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Holy cow ... CNS?

Looks like quite an outfit.

Which is a division of the Media Research Center. Notice their self-description: "The Leader in Documenting, Exposing and Neutralizing Liberal Media Bias".

Gatchaman wrote:

Brent Bozzell?  Well, thanks for clearing up any question regarding the authenticity of this "medical report".

Frankly, I don't know why I expected any other reaction from a culture of death liberal like you ...

I wonder if the name of their Congressional Bureau Chief is a real name. "Jeff Johnson" is probably common enough, but something about it reminds me of Eddie Murphy's character in "The Distinguished Gentleman." That's the movie where Eddie Murphy uses the name of a dead representative, Jeff Johnson, in order to fool Johnson's former constituents to elect him to Congress.

[edit]As it turns out, nothing in the reporter's bio offers any verification that such a person even exists:

CNSNews.com wrote:

Senior Staff Writer -- Jeff Johnson is an Associated Press award-winning journalist with more than two decades' experience in local, regional and nationally syndicated reporting. He joined CNSNews.com in late August 2001, just two weeks before the terrorist attacks on the United States. Jeff reported from both the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon on 9/11, and has since extensively researched and written on the development of the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security. Prior to his arrival at CNSNews.com, Jeff served as news director for Washington, D.C., talk radio stations WAVA and WABS, and was the Washington bureau chief for Focus on the Family's nationally syndicated "Family News in Focus" radio newsmagazine. A graduate of Excelsior College in Albany, N.Y. with a degree in communications, Jeff is a veteran of both the U.S. Air Force and civilian law enforcement. He is a member of Investigative Reporters and Editors, Inc., Online News Association, and the Society of Professional Journalists.

Besides not being mentioned on the websites for WAVA and WABS, and not being mentioned at all on any Focus on the Family website, his memberships in Investigative Reporters and Editors, Inc., Online News Association, and the Society of Professional Journalists can all be applied for ONLINE.

And as for graduating from Excelsior College in Albany ("A World Leader in Distance Education"), well, I'm simply not convinced of his credentials.[/edit]

Last edited by Rozzlapeed (2005-04-06 12:27 pm)

Oh, CNS is really an opinion site.  It takes current news and rewrites it with a Right Wing bias.   Sometimes, the editorials are in house.  But, by no stretch of imagination is there anything mainstream about CNS.   I first became aware of it because it uses content from Right Wing foundations.   Their staff writes the stuff and CNS posts it as 'news.'

Camp David wrote:

iBubba wrote:

Pretty please. With sugar on top...

Let's 'nip this one in the bud'.

1. I was, of course, wrong to call it an "autopsy report" when it, in fact, was a 1991 bone scan; the point, however, of the report is not in dispute.
2. The location of its acquisition is here:
http://www.cnsnews.com/Culture/Archive/ … 1028a.html
3. The reaction was, however, not unexpected; one again showing the messenger not the message in question.

mea culpa

Quite.

What you have proven is:

Terry Schiavo had a bone scan in 1991
The words possible trauma were included in the doctor's analysis.

How you went from that to wife beater would be interesting to read.

Did you see my earlier post relaying how last year we brought our son to the ER because he was limping and if I let you read the doctor's report on it the words possible trauma are in it as well. Based on your logic, either myself or my wife are child beaters.

Of course that medical note is just a picture in time, what the doctor was referring to was the possibility that my son had run into something or someone or vice versa playing on the playground or at school or wherever. The note doesn't convey the whole picture, who brought him in, what were our concerns, the final outcome, etc. etc. etc.

The same goes for this. Who brought Terry in for a bone scan? Herself, her husband, her parents, a sibling? What was the concern? What was the result?

You post one document which really says nothing and then expect everyone to accept that as evidence of Mike Schiavo's wife beating ways. Shame on you.

I do agree with you, the responses were as I expected as well. And they probably resembled the responses of Mike Schiavo's defense team and the judges in the 19 trials he had to go through in regards to his wife's condition each time some right wing over the top religious group brought this up in court.

I had a bone scan to measure the "density" of my bones for signs of osteoporosis (I am small in size and subject to the disease). Terri would be subject to the disease because of her eating disability. A bone scan is common for signs of osteoporosis, not injury; X-rays and CTs are used for injury.

RI wrote:

Terry Schiavo had a bone scan in 1991.

I don't believe even that has been proven.  To admit that report as evidence, one would need to establish its authenticity.  The report turned up in the possession of the Right to Life movement lawyers representing Bob and Mary Schindler in 2000.   It needs to be sourced to the radiologist who supposedly prepared it.   That never happened because Judge Greer found the report not to be relevant to the issue and did not admit it as evidence.    If the report is legitimate, there should be an original in the files of radiologist and/or hospital. 

The Right to Life movement has already begun trying to discredit the real autopsy.  They tried to have an observer watch the local coroner perform it, which is pretty much unheard of.  The coroner rejected the request.  So, there must be something he wants to hide, they say.  He will be named as another conspirator along with the doctors, lawyer, hospice, judge and husband if the autopsy confirms a persistent vegetative state, I guess.


Oops!  I forgot the sheriff's department.  The sheriff is being criticized for hiring Schiavo as a nurse in the jail.  As far as I know, the manager of the supermarket that sells Schiavo grocery has not been identified and slandered. . .yet.

Podesta wrote:

Also, someone else has been charged with attempting or soliciting the murder of Michael Schiavo.  This the third case I am aware of.

SAN FRANCISCO --                  A California woman has been charged with threatening to kill Michael Schiavo, the man whose decision to remove his brain-damaged wife's feeding tube enraged religious conservatives.

The federal charge against Dera Marie Jones stems from a posting on an America Online message board: "If she dies I will kill Michael Schiavo and the judge. This for real!"

Jones told FBI agents she was "just kidding" and soon began receiving threats herself, FBI Agent Christopher Sadlowski wrote in an affidavit filed Monday in federal court in San Francisco.

http://tinyurl.com/5u624

That whole right to life thing is, apparently, only for selected people.

RIRed wrote:

Camp David wrote:

iBubba wrote:

Pretty please. With sugar on top...

Let's 'nip this one in the bud'.

1. I was, of course, wrong to call it an "autopsy report" when it, in fact, was a 1991 bone scan; the point, however, of the report is not in dispute.
2. The location of its acquisition is here:
http://www.cnsnews.com/Culture/Archive/ … 1028a.html
3. The reaction was, however, not unexpected; one again showing the messenger not the message in question.

mea culpa

Quite.

What you have proven is:

Terry Schiavo had a bone scan in 1991
The words possible trauma were included in the doctor's analysis.

How you went from that to wife beater would be interesting to read.

Did you see my earlier post relaying how last year we brought our son to the ER because he was limping and if I let you read the doctor's report on it the words possible trauma are in it as well. Based on your logic, either myself or my wife are child beaters.

Of course that medical note is just a picture in time, what the doctor was referring to was the possibility that my son had run into something or someone or vice versa playing on the playground or at school or wherever. The note doesn't convey the whole picture, who brought him in, what were our concerns, the final outcome, etc. etc. etc.

The same goes for this. Who brought Terry in for a bone scan? Herself, her husband, her parents, a sibling? What was the concern? What was the result?

You post one document which really says nothing and then expect everyone to accept that as evidence of Mike Schiavo's wife beating ways. Shame on you.

I do agree with you, the responses were as I expected as well. And they probably resembled the responses of Mike Schiavo's defense team and the judges in the 19 trials he had to go through in regards to his wife's condition each time some right wing over the top religious group brought this up in court.

Yes, Campy has quite a history of misunderstanding and misusing words with specific legal or medical meanings.