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#1 2003-11-13 12:16 pm

Mr. Binary
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Long-term relationship

Out of curiosity, how long do you think constitutes a "long term" relationship?

On Tuesday we had a guest speaker in my Understanding Human Behavior class. There were about 40 people in the class, ranging in age from 17 to 45. One of the first questions she asked was to see a show of hands for "how many of you have not been in a long-term relationship?" I was the only one to raise my hand. "One? Okay."

I was a bit shocked, considering I knew people in there from high school who weren't in long term relationships. It was rather irritating. I was sitting there thinking "c'mon people, its not that embarassing. Fess up." At first I thought they were all just too embarassed to raise their hands, but then I started thinking back to high school. (I just started college this semester)

I heard these sorts of things more than I care to remember, all the way through my senior year: "Yeah, I've been going out with this girl for eight months. It's pretty long term." What? I would consider long-term, depending on context, to be probably a couple of years. If pressed, I could probably manage to rationalize a little over a year being "long-term."

Another interesting question... if you were in that class and hadn't been in a long relationship, how many of you would have raised your hand? wink


I should make this a poll... it might come in handy if I need to write a paper for this class.

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#2 2003-11-13 12:21 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

Current wife - 13 years...


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#3 2003-11-13 12:23 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I suppose that all depends on who you ask, and since we have quite a mix here, you're going to get a lot of answers. Like you, i'd say a few years.

Yes, i woulda raised my hand if i'd never been in a relationship that lasted a few years.

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#4 2003-11-13 12:41 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I think it depends on the age of the couple.  If you have two 16 year olds who are dating, I think a year would be considered long term.  If you go any further back than that, they may have just been too young to date.

On the other hand, if you're in your eighties, a year might seem like nothing, (or it may seem like all you've got left).

Who knows?  I guess I'll just say a steady, committed year at any age could fall into the category of "long term".  But, it really can depend on the couple. 

Aaron and I have been together about six years.

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#5 2003-11-13 12:44 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I am 18. I've had three girlfriends.
One for 6 months.
One for 2 years 11 months
One for 1 year 2 months (and running)

Yeah I like long terms


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#6 2003-11-13 12:49 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I have no opinion.


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#7 2003-11-13 12:53 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I'd probably have put my hand up just to save you looking like a total tit-wank.


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#8 2003-11-13 12:58 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

The class was about as mixed as Unplugged, so I'm curious to how the views differ. Malkin, that's what I was thinking too. A year of dating in high school is a long time, considering there had only been a few years of dating opportunity in those people's lives.

In the context of the day's lessons, though, a year wouldn't be nearly enough time. The speaker spent the day discussing the cycle of love, how people begin in love (this period lasts up to little over a year), and then go through a difficult period where the "zing" starts to wear off and they start noticing little things that irritate them in the relationship. After this part of the cycle, they reach the "stable" relationship, which is around 2 years. It's where there's still the zing, but its no longer the entirely idealistic head-over-heels love.

What she was looking for, I think, was people who hadn't experienced this whole cycle, because she abbreviated a lot of things expecting that we all understood it from experience. Probably at least a fourth of the class hadn't made it beyond the "in love" or the difficult stages, though (I wish I could remember the name of the difficult middle stage). In high school it seemed like the general mentality was that once the "in love" stage was over, the relationship was worthless and should be ended.

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#9 2003-11-13 12:58 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

Yes.

My wife and I have known each other for 8 years and have been married for 4. We met and got married in the month of November. How's that for synchronicity?


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#10 2003-11-13 1:01 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

The class was about as mixed as Unplugged, so I'm curious to how the views differ. Malkin, that's what I was thinking too. A year of dating in high school is a long time, considering there had only been a few years of dating opportunity in those people's lives. In the context of the day's lessons, though, a year wouldn't be nearly enough time. The speaker spent the day discussing the cycle of love, how people begin in love (this period lasts up to little over a year), and then go through a difficult period where the "zing" starts to wear off and they start noticing little things that irritate them in the relationship. After this part of the cycle, they reach the "stable" relationship, which is around 2 years. It's where there's still the zing, but its no longer the entirely idealistic head-over-heels love. What she was looking for was people who hadn't experienced this whole cycle I think, because she abbreviated a lot of things expecting that we all understood it from experience. Probably at least a third of the class hadn't made it beyond the "in love" stage, though. In high school it seemed like the general mentality was that once the "in love" stage was over, the relationship was worthless and should be ended.

I was actually going to mention this cycle because I would judge a long-term relationship to be one which is in the third of those stages.


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#11 2003-11-13 1:02 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I'd probably have put my hand up just to save you looking like a total tit-wank.

Aww, so kind. smile

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#12 2003-11-13 1:05 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I've been with Louise for going on 5 years now.


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#13 2003-11-13 1:28 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

Gippy and I have been together for eight years, married for the last three. This is the first long-term relationship for both of us.

I would have raised my hand. I was a pathetic datelss wonder through college, but I wasn't embarassed about it.


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#14 2003-11-13 1:33 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

My wife and I have known each other for 8 years and have been married for 4. We met and got married in the month of November. How's that for synchronicity?

Heh.  That is uber organized.  One could say it was perfect.   wink

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#15 2003-11-13 1:34 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

Hmm, my wife and I have been together 10 years (in January).  We've been married three of those years.

We don't have those petty arguments a lot of friends have who have been together and married a total of 3 or less years.  A few of our friends are at the five year mark and they bicker a little.

Actually come to think of it.  Mrs. Spiff and I, (I shall call her Suzie Derkins from now on!), have never really argued/bickered or reduced our conversaion to petty quips.

Oh well, I would say over three years is long term.


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#16 2003-11-13 1:38 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I agree with the people that say it depends on the age and the people. I'm in high school and I've been dating a girl for 1 2/3 years. I consider that long-term for my age. Seems like someone my age could go out for just a couple months and consider it long-term.


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#17 2003-11-13 1:42 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

In the context of the day's lessons, though, a year wouldn't be nearly enough time. The speaker spent the day discussing the cycle of love, how people begin in love (this period lasts up to little over a year), and then go through a difficult period where the "zing" starts to wear off and they start noticing little things that irritate them in the relationship. After this part of the cycle, they reach the "stable" relationship, which is around 2 years. It's where there's still the zing, but its no longer the entirely idealistic head-over-heels love.

It's funny that it should fall down to that number - my 2nd wedding anniversary is next month, and we're doing great. big_smile

I voted yes.

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#18 2003-11-13 1:47 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

Yeah so like Suzie and I have been together for one third of our lives.  So If you are only sixteen, and have spent 5 years, 5 months, 8 days, 9 hours and 36 minutes, with someone:  Were even!


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#19 2003-11-13 1:50 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

I would have raised my hand.

ive had 1 relationship that ended pretty bad and died after 2 months.  shrug

I guess you could say my parents have had a long term relationship seeing as how they have been together longer then ive been alive wink

i personally dont think that high school kids are mature enough to understand a steady relationship. Granted, hey may really care about someone (who could possibly even be a future spouse), but how many people that young really know how to love someone with out sticking their tounges down eachothers throats? with out sneaking under their parents noses to go find some special place where they can make out? Im not saying that 18 is some magical age that makes you mature, but I think that if you at least waited till you were somewhat of an adult age before letting long term relationships be a concern then youre better off. Graduate high school and move on from that stage of life first imho. I know people I went to high school with who are already married and have babies running around talking to eachother. in their case i guess theyd consider the couple young years of their life theyd been together before they got married "long term" enough to justify getting married.  shrug


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#20 2003-11-13 1:54 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

high scool... babies running around....

Another situation altogether.....


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#21 2003-11-13 7:56 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

i personally dont think that high school kids are mature enough to understand a steady relationship. Granted, hey may really care about someone (who could possibly even be a future spouse), but how many people that young really know how to love someone with out sticking their tounges down eachothers throats? with out sneaking under their parents noses to go find some special place where they can make out? Im not saying that 18 is some magical age that makes you mature, but I think that if you at least waited till you were somewhat of an adult age before letting long term relationships be a concern then youre better off.

I agree. Which is why I avoided them and then felt stupid raising my hand. wink

The poll is missing 1%. confused
40/60 is a nice split, but 40/59 just doesn't have the same neat and rounded perfection.

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#22 2003-11-13 8:05 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

i personally dont think that high school kids are mature enough to understand a steady relationship. Granted, hey may really care about someone (who could possibly even be a future spouse), but how many people that young really know how to love someone with out sticking their tounges down eachothers throats? with out sneaking under their parents noses to go find some special place where they can make out? Im not saying that 18 is some magical age that makes you mature, but I think that if you at least waited till you were somewhat of an adult age before letting long term relationships be a concern then youre better off.

I agree. Which is why I avoided them and then felt stupid raising my hand. wink

The poll is missing 1%. confused
40/60 is a nice split, but 40/59 just doesn't have the same neat and rounded perfection.

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#23 2003-11-13 8:08 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

No long term relationships - no relationships to speak of.


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#24 2003-11-13 8:10 pm

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Better now ?

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Guess not coz I just added my vote to it and it's still adding up to 99%.

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#25 2003-11-13 8:18 pm

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Re: Long-term relationship

This coming Bastille Day, 14 July, 2004: 20-year anniversary. Will have been together about 21.5 yrs.

How's that for long-term?

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