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#1 2005-06-23 10:35 am
Think Secret Shows MacTels
Think Secret has photo's of the developer MacTels & Info.
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#2 2005-06-23 10:44 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
So it can't boot on a generic box. What was with all the "reports" of it booting from?
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#3 2005-06-23 10:44 am
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BTW as of 8:43 PST thier server must be overloaded with people wanting to see, so it make take a time to load or may not load at all.
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#4 2005-06-23 10:49 am
Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
here's one of the pics running XP http://img18.echo.cx/img18/7217/36xr.jpg
Here's one of the inside http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1017/11iy1.th.jpg]
Graphics card http://img172.echo.cx/img172/6346/26ww.th.jpg]
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If people can post Desktop pics, the monitor pic was no bigger
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#5 2005-06-23 10:50 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
I dunno about Windows config, but does the OS support monitors with higher screen size like Cinema Display 23?
Any mention of OS X speed on Intel anyone?
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#6 2005-06-23 10:53 am
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From the article, it won't boot on generic machines because the developer version does not yet include broader support for the basic hardware.
If that board layout is similar to other Intel M-ATX boards of that class, then it looks like a ribbon cable is connected to the floppy controller. J/K
It's the power connector.
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#7 2005-06-23 10:54 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
bastards didn't let us know about performance....I guess this makes Scott picture a fake
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#8 2005-06-23 11:02 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
I think the Windows monitor problem would probably have more to do with the apparently obscure video card they are are using than anything else.
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#9 2005-06-23 11:35 am
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NAG wrote:
I think the Windows monitor problem would probably have more to do with the apparently obscure video card they are are using than anything else.
Running Windows; Mac OS X on other PCs
Along with running Mac OS X, Windows XP installs without hitch on the Intel-based Mac, just as it would on any other PC, and booted without issue when installed on an NTFS-formatted partition. The only misbehavior sources encountered involved the video card. Initially, Windows refused to budge from an 800x600 setting on a 23-inch Cinema Display. Some prodding managed to get the screen to 1600x1200, but sources were unable to get Windows to take advantage of the entire screen.
Apple alluded to developers at its recent Worldwide Developer Conference that Windows should be able to run on Apple's Intel Macs.
As for installing Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware, attempts to boot from the included Mac OS X for Intel disc resulted in an error message on both a Dell and off-brand PC. The message states that the hardware configuration is not supported by Darwin x86.
Sources have indicated that Apple will employ an EDID chip on the motherboard of Intel-based Macs that Mac OS X will look for and must handshake with first in order to boot. Such an approach, similar to hardware dongles, could theoretically be defeated, although it's unknown what level of sophistication Apple will employ.
Also uncertain is whether the Intel-based development kits seeded to developers already feature the EDID chip or whether the installation disc contains a less sophisticated installation check that simply seeks out one particular hardware configuration--the one given to developers--and will not install on other configurations.
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#10 2005-06-23 11:40 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
NAG wrote:
I think the Windows monitor problem would probably have more to do with the apparently obscure video card they are are using than anything else.
Yeah, they worte that in the article
They apparently made it run in 1600x1200 resolution, but not in the native 1920 x 1200.
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#11 2005-06-23 1:10 pm
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Not might fault they are getting pounded and the page doesn't come up.
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#12 2005-06-23 1:24 pm
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I swear, if Apple goes with some non-standard video cards for their Macs (again) and I can't go out and purchase a $200 almost top of the line card like I can with my (regular) PC, they're Doooooooooooooooooomed.
No, seriously.
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#13 2005-06-23 1:42 pm
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It seems like they had to for the developer machines because they didn't want more people in on the switch than they needed, so they used intel graphics. If apple is using nvidia and ati cards now, why wouldn't they keep doing so?
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#14 2005-06-23 1:45 pm
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
Kurto2021 wrote:
bastards didn't let us know about performance....I guess this makes Scott picture a fake
Scott's not a liar. Most likely he just happened to have a system that met the requirements for Darwin x86.
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#15 2005-06-23 2:05 pm
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
sosumi wrote:
Kurto2021 wrote:
bastards didn't let us know about performance....I guess this makes Scott picture a fake
Scott's not a liar. Most likely he just happened to have a system that met the requirements for Darwin x86.
That would be a Mactel system.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.
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#16 2005-06-23 6:11 pm
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Scott's pictures are real alright, they're real photos.
Still wishing for size tags on this board.
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#17 2005-06-23 6:15 pm
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
Ceemkm wrote:
here's one of the pics running XP http://img18.echo.cx/img18/7217/36xr.jpg
Here's one of the inside http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1017/11iy1.th.jpg]
Graphics card http://img172.echo.cx/img172/6346/26ww.th.jpg]
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if you wanna post links, do it right.
http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1017/11iy1.jpg
http://img172.echo.cx/img172/6346/26ww.jpg
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#18 2005-06-24 4:38 am
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sosumi wrote:
Kurto2021 wrote:
bastards didn't let us know about performance....I guess this makes Scott picture a fake
Scott's not a liar. Most likely he just happened to have a system that met the requirements for Darwin x86.
That would be a Mactel system.
Or a Dell using the same chipset as the development Mac.
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#19 2005-06-24 9:42 am
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I can't wait til Scott drops by and explains the whole thing 
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#20 2005-06-24 10:57 am
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Ceemkm wrote:
here's one of the pics running XP http://img18.echo.cx/img18/7217/36xr.jpg
Here's one of the inside http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1017/11iy1.th.jpg]
Graphics card http://img172.echo.cx/img172/6346/26ww.th.jpg]
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Please do not post very wide images especially if you link them from someone elses server. -Sci
Nice private message..... a-hole
the server was mine to use look at my sig
If people can post Desktop pics, the monitor pic was no bigger
MF have something always to complain about
Ya I also reposted this 
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#21 2005-06-25 10:58 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
user wrote:
sosumi wrote:
Kurto2021 wrote:
bastards didn't let us know about performance....I guess this makes Scott picture a fake
Scott's not a liar. Most likely he just happened to have a system that met the requirements for Darwin x86.
That would be a Mactel system.
Says who? There is a version of Darwin out there that runs on X86-based computers.
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#22 2005-06-26 12:13 am
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Only TWO PCI slots?!?!?
Must...pound...sense...into...Steve...Jobs'...brain...
Apple just keeps pulling this same crap over and over and over again. Release a new generation with new CPUs and slash back the expansion capabilities. :where's the really PO'ed smiley:
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#23 2005-06-26 1:19 am
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Re: Think Secret Shows MacTels
greggv8 wrote:
Only TWO PCI slots?!?!?
Must...pound...sense...into...Steve...Jobs'...brain...
Apple just keeps pulling this same crap over and over and over again. Release a new generation with new CPUs and slash back the expansion capabilities. :where's the really PO'ed smiley:
This is only a machine for developers. We have no idea if the new machines will be any way like this at all. PPC equivalent mactels probably aren't coming untill '07 anyways
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