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Dream on, dude.

You're spamming MacAddict forums with Libertarian Party propaganda?

http://www.macaddict.com/forums/post/1313518#p1313518

oatmeal wrote:

You're spamming MacAddict forums with Libertarian Party propaganda?

http://www.macaddict.com/forums/post/1313518#p1313518

Thanks. I was about to chide him. So now you can be the big bad meanie.

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Dream on, dude.

!!ANARCHY NOW!!

I hear Lib's are lately a stalking horse for GOP. Could be true. Don't know.

I will say that a Nov. 5 robocall from a candidate for State Rep. got a vote. His voice told me his campaign platform was about taking care of local services (police, fire, teachers....have all been underfunded in this Faire Citye) and improve quality of life. Solid. This is a 'winning' issue (unforunately. I remember the Great Society, where funding basic services was 'given'.)

Never mentioned party. His name is Irish. I remembered.

Nov. 7 (btw - the Dem latina incumbent was in no danger defeat.) I looked over the ballot.

DINGDING!
Our male Irish candidate is a Libertarian.
(But I can't see a 'stalking horse' candidacy in this neck of the woods.) OTOH, he had to have had access to a list of recent Dem registrations cross referenced with phone numbers (I had changed address and party over summer.)

Final vote tally:
Dem incumbent: 79%
Rep challenger: 15%
Lib. candidate: 6% (mine plus 290 other votes) I think some places will grant a permanent ballot spot for a party carrying 5plus% in consecutive elections. So, I may have 'helped' in that.

Just a ripple. Who knows if it turns out overall good or bad. I figure a broad spectrum of views is in the interests of a vibrant democracy. (But, not in the guise of another party's interests.)

Beagle/Bro. wrote:

I hear Lib's are lately a stalking horse for GOP. Could be true.

Just a ripple. Who knows if it turns out overall good or bad. I figure a broad spectrum of views is in the interests of a vibrant democracy. (But, not in the guise of another party's interests.)

The thing I have noticed in American politics - nothing is ever going to change in the USA until a viable third party gets elected in the House of Representatives and the Senate. Only then will the Democrats and Republicans stop the little game they are playing with the American electorate. The Libertarian Party is making huge gains in the mid-west, especially in Texas. It's time for a change...

ShnickyShnack wrote:

Dream on, dude.

I am not dreaming... The American people are becoming quite sick of the status quo we have here.

Macintosh Sauce wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

You're spamming MacAddict forums with Libertarian Party propaganda?

http://www.macaddict.com/forums/post/1313518#p1313518

No, I am not spamming the MacAddict forums with LP whatever. I am just voicing my opinion that I am sick and tired of the Democrats and Republicans, and because of it I joined the Libertarian Party last week. Nothing wrong with that IMHO. Democrats and Republicans can voice their own opinions, so why can't Libertarians? As soon as someone goes against the status quo, that person cannot say or do anything. That is the impression you are giving me...

Heh, no.  Usually when someone posts the same text in several different threads they're posting some sort of spam, trying to get referrals or some such unwanted nonsense.  Especially when they're new - they sign up, spam the place, and leave.

If that's not what you're about, then all the better.  We've got a couple of people around here who are die-hard republicans who claim that they're libertarian.  (They're not fooling anyone. )

Macintosh Sauce wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

You're spamming MacAddict forums with Libertarian Party propaganda?

http://www.macaddict.com/forums/post/1313518#p1313518

No, I am not spamming the MacAddict forums with LP whatever. I am just voicing my opinion that I am sick and tired of the Democrats and Republicans, and because of it I joined the Libertarian Party last week. Nothing wrong with that IMHO. Democrats and Republicans can voice their own opinions, so why can't Libertarians? As soon as someone goes against the status quo, that person cannot say or do anything. That is the impression you are giving me...

Reread your posts - if they sound like advertisements, it's spam. I'd say you're pushing it.

In any case, I certainly identify with the libertarians on some issues, but the rather extreme sink-or-swim, everyone-for-themselves, no-taxes-or-government-services rep some of them have is... disturbing.

I'm going to have to start my own political party - the Socialist Libertine Party or something. We'll leave you the smurf alone and let you do your thing, but only if you pay taxes.

Also, my particular candidate's entire recorded msg. (around 30-60 secs) was about use of tax dollars. Yes, essential services. But, is that 'idealogically pure'?

Chickenhawk wrote:

I'm wary of people with the libertarian party icon in their sig these days...

Why is that? I am actually interested in seeing your answer...

Macintosh Sauce wrote:

There is nothing wrong with some government services - where they make sense though. For example, most of us know that the public educational system is a complete disaster. IMO, the Department of Education should be abolished and the States should be in control of their own educational systems. The Federal Government always has to have its darned hands in everything - my view.

See that's the problem - in my experience, the lower the level that a decision is made, the more likely you are to have smurfing small-time church ladies making decisions. Were I a parent, the last thing I would want would be to have the pink-flamingo-nazi president of my local homeowners association making curriculum decisions for my kids. A centralized government is, or at least can be in many circumstances, going to be more efficient than 50 seperate states. What sounds cheaper - 1 curriculum standards committee, or 50 curriculum standards comittees? That's why so many things are under the auspices of Washington - it makes more sense.

Really, the problem is that the people we have in government are either corrupt, incompetent, ideologues, or all of the above. What's worse is that just when we think we've sent somebody to Washington who isn't, they always end up proving us wrong down the line.

I seriously think that the vows politicians take should be more like the vows monks take - especially the ones regarding humility and poverty. If 51% of Congress had the best interests of the majority of the population in mind, that would be cool too.

The increasing trend towards authoritarianism is disturbing, but I think that's seperate from how government should be structured and where authority should lie.